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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2010 9:22:08 GMT 1
Greetings and blessings to all, I have recently started working with a vision coach who suggests the use of disposable contact lenses. That way, the lenses can quickly and inexpensively be reduced in strength as the eyes improve. I have been subjecting my poor eyes to gas permeable (hard) contact lenses for years. Therefore, my contact lens prescription indicates the measurements for those hard lenses. The diameter and radius for the soft, disposable lenses are all larger. So I don't know which size of disposable lenses to order that would fit the measurements of my eyes. The measurements of the surface of my eyes aren't included on the prescription, just the measurements of the contact lenses prescribed for me previously. The website where I'm ordering isn't much help in this respect. I would like to avoid paying for an eye exam to be measured and fit for contact lenses, which I am only going to wear for a relatively small number of weeks. My most recent contact lens prescription says: R eye: -5.25 7.70/9.5 (and then the brand of the hard lenses) L eye: -4.75 7.70/9.5 (and again the brand name of the old lenses) Would anyone have any suggestions as to how to determine what size of soft disposable lenses I can order for my transition period? (I understand this is layperson's advice and not medical advice.) Many thanks!
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Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 30, 2010 13:45:01 GMT 1
In fact we recommend that when people are improving their vision that they leave their contact lenses and/or eyeglasses off when they do not need them to function, and put them on only to do what they are doing - and then immediately to remove them again - and if, when they put them on, they are uncomfortable on the eyes, that probably shows that they are already too strong, and the person should then go and get their eyes re-examined to see how much improvement there has been.
Obviously, there will be a tendency to not follow this advice if the person is using contact lenses.
Thus, our recommendation would be to not use contact lenses during the improvement process, but rather eyeglasses, since they are easy to put on for short periods and then take off again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 6:38:53 GMT 1
Thank you, Sir Martin, and of course what you are saying makes perfect sense.
The coach I am working with, suggests a -1.5 prescription in eyeglasses, and then the correct strength of contact lenses worn under the glasses, in order so that combined, they produce 20/40 vision, which is legal to drive an automobile in my state in the US. The eyeglasses are only worn when absolutely needed, e.g. driving a vehicle. The prescription of the contacts would be gradually reduced, until they are not needed at all. Then the eyeglasses would also be gradually abandoned. This is for moderate to severe myopia.
I think the idea is that this method makes the transition period more financially affordable, because of the ease of reducing prescription strength (just order new, weaker contacts, whereas glasses tend to be more expensive). It also allows for not adding the additional expense of an eye exam every time a new, reduced prescription is needed.
My thoughts are that financially, these suggestions would make the process much easier for me, thus reducing stress and tension; and that I would remove the contacts when not needed. Especially since I have found I enjoy seeing the world without any lenses, but currently experience challenges functioning without them due to the degree of my (temporary) myopia. However I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Many thanks!
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Post by Martin Brofman on Oct 1, 2010 12:48:39 GMT 1
Apparently our methods differ from those of your vision coach.
Consider reading our book on improving vision, using our vision improvement CD, and perhaps attending one of our vision improvement weekend classes.
Most optometrists give free eye exams, by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2010 5:39:20 GMT 1
Dear Sir Martin,
I believe some of the details of the how-to are different, between your method and my coach's; but the overall idea is strikingly similar. Apparently this coach watches a student seeing and then prescribes individualized exercises based upon the exact bad habits seen in the student's vision; and then helps the student learn how to do the exercises.
I have your book and really love it. Currently finances prevent me from coming to Europe, although as my root chakra has made some major advances in healing recently, I am starting to see some improvements in finances as well. (And I sure would love to return to visit Europe!!) I have the strong sense I would greatly benefit from the ongoing support and encouragement of a coach who's helped thousands of people develop perfect natural vision, which is why I contacted my coach.
I believe in your method and understand the reasons why you suggested no contact lenses. I had been fretting a bit about not being able to order the lenses, not receiving any direct answers to my contact lens prescription question, etc. Then, I noticed that this morning, I felt like my eyes were sore and strained when wearing my (old) glasses; and I took a walk around the neighborhood without them, putting them on only when I needed to be able to see the details of people's faces, for social interactive purposes. That felt really nice.
Then this evening I was drawn to take a walk. I felt a calling within to take off my glasses, so I did. It felt like such a relief to see the world with my actual eyes, nothing between me and the rest of the world. And--I don't really have words to describe the inner experience fully; but I was able to *feel* what you mean when you say that one's state of consciousness is held in place by the lenses. I felt the absence of that, and I felt an upswell of emotion, the beginning of a release of tension. I simply walked wherever I was drawn by my inner self, although unfortunately I wasn't able to ride that swell of emotion to its natural conclusion, because it was interrupted by encountering several groups of other people in the neighborhood, and not feeling they would understand my strong emotion and vulnerability at that moment.
But I totally see what you mean. I want to proceed but am not quite sure how. All of the eye doctors I am aware of, charge for an eye exam, then additional charge for each type of prescription (glasses/contacts). It's quite a racket.
Another possibility is that I could order several pairs of glasses, with gradually weakened prescription, from this website that sells prescription eyeglasses for $8 USD. It just takes up to 2 weeks for the glasses to arrive. Given my prescription as noted above (-4.75 and -5.25), what prescription might I order, so as to have 20/40 vision as is legal for driving? And then perhaps a few pairs of glasses at slightly lower prescriptions?
And, if I have to put my old glasses back on for whatever reason (e.g. in the interim before my new weaker lenses arrive), will that re-set my vision back to the old myopia? Will it undo the progress I've made?
Many thanks and much gratitude for your thoughts and support. Much love to all reading these posts. <3
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Post by Martin Brofman on Oct 2, 2010 12:11:03 GMT 1
I am happy to hear that you have experienced already what I have described in my book in terms of getting around without your glasses, and it is in this way that you might also experience what I describe as selective vision - which you would not experience wearing lenses.. I am surprised that you have let monetary considerations get in the way of your improvement process, and I also wonder whether your coach is being paid or is providing free services. It would seem from what you have written that your present glasses are already too strong, and if it were me in your position I would look forward to getting a new examination immediately or at least very soon to see how much improvement there has been already - and rather than go to a doctor for that, visit a neighborhood optometrist who might be providing a free exam, as many do. Do a Google search on "free eye exam" and see what is there. For example, I know that they are available at Walmart, and there are also organizations that provide not only free exams, but free eyeglasses as well. There is even a free online eye exam at eyeexamonline.com. Getting used to your old glasses again might very well reverse your progress, which is why we recommend using them as little as possible and getting used to not having them on, and discovering the sense of freedom that brings. Using my Vision Improvement CD as a daily meditation would also help a lot in terms of holding your consciousness and perceptions focused positively on the improvement process. Please keep us posted as to your progress.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2010 23:52:06 GMT 1
Thank you, Sir Martin. So your recommendation would be for me to obtain a new eye exam prior to ordering new (reduced prescription) glasses? Given my old prescription above, what strengths of glasses would I need to order to bring my vision down to 20/40 (legal for driving), and then perhaps another pair for 20/80 and maybe 20/200? I would like to be able to interchange the glasses depending upon my needs in the situation; and then be able to whip them off and go without, whenever possible.
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Post by Martin Brofman on Oct 7, 2010 20:15:58 GMT 1
The recommendation, in terms of how we work, is to get your eyes examined to see how much improvement there has been, and to get a new prescription based on those results, continuing to not wear ANY eyeglasses or contact lenses when you do not need them to function, and if you need them to function, put them on for that, and then immediately remove them afterwards. Continue until your eyesight tests normal. If you go for what you understand as reduced prescription glasses, weaker than you need at the time, understand that this is not the way we work, and not in accord with our techniques and methods. We will not give any recommendations that would fit into what your "vision coach" is recommending, since we do not work in that way. You have to decide for yourself what you want to do - and if you continue to ask for advice here, please understand that the advice we give will be in accord with our own philosophies and techniques, which are clearly different from the ones you are hearing from your "vision coach." Perhaps you should read some of our success stories on our page at www.healer.ch/success.html under "Vision" and decide whether you prefer to work with our tools of the other recommendations you have been listening to elsewhere. Whatever you decide is okay, as far as we are concerned. Make your decision and commit yourself to that.
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