Eyebulb shape change

[ondrej]

Dear Martin ,

first of all I would like to thank you for Your book" Improve Your vision " which is among a few valuable works helping me on my way to clear vision
I am 48 years old individual who decided couple months ago to claim my right for naturaly clear vision and get rid of - 7.5 prescription

I would like to kindly ask you for a little bit of your time and answer my 4 questions :


1. Do you personaly have or can you refer to any scientificaly documented study documenting that extraoccular muscles can cause "permanent" but reversible change of the shape of the eye bulb and thus cause the shortsightness / myopia ?

2. Do you think that the change of the eye bulb shape caused by extraoccular muscles can occur only while these muscles are creating the pressure and the shape of the eyebulb would "immediately " ( seconds / minutes ) return to its original / correct shape provided one would be able to completely eliminate the tension by hypnosis, will or any other method or do you think that the eyes needs much more time ( weeks/ months, years ) to go back to it's original shape provided one would be able to maintain relaxed condition in these muscles ?

3. Is there any method which can exactly measure the the size of the eyebulb so that one would be able to compare the results of such a measurements in the process aimed to the change of the myopic eyebulb shape ?

4. Is there any method which could scan in real time the pulling action of the extraoccular muscles and consequent change of the eyebulb shape in the process of accomodation documenting the roll of these muscles in the accomodation process through their impact on the he eyebulb shape ?

Greetings from Bratislava / SLOVAKIA


Ondrej Sima

[Martin Brofman]

> 1. Do you personaly have or can you refer to any scientificaly documented study documenting that extraoccular muscles can cause "permanent" but reversible change of the shape of the eye bulb and thus cause the shortsightness / myopia ?

No - though it does seem to be a commonly accepted idea - which is why the use of eye exercises (motility training) is an accepted practice as a means of releasing the tensions in those extraocular muscles designed to have a positive effect on eyesight - and many people have reported progress with their vision through the use of these eye exercises when they are done in a relaxed state of mind or at alpha.

In fact there is a recent post about that on this message board.

> 2. Do you think that the change of the eye bulb shape caused by extraoccular muscles can occur only while these muscles are creating the pressure and the shape of the eyebulb would "immediately " ( seconds / minutes ) return to its original / correct shape provided one would be able to completely eliminate the tension by hypnosis, will or any other method or do you think that the eyes needs much more time ( weeks/ months, years ) to go back to it's original shape provided one would be able to maintain relaxed condition in these muscles ?

We have had experiences of both kinds in our vision classes. When the tensions are released from the consciousness, the corresponding tensions are released from the muscles that had been holding those tensions, with the effect of eyesight improvement that we understand happened with the eyeball returning to more of its natural state - and that has happened with some people in minutes. Obviously, if the individual takes more time to release the tensions from their consciousness, it can take longer for the tensions to release from the eye muscles. It's up to the individual.

> 3. Is there any method which can exactly measure the the size of the eyebulb so that one would be able to compare the results of such a measurements in the process aimed to the change of the myopic eyebulb shape ?

There are means to measure the curvature of the eye, as I understand it, but I have not heard of measuring the size of the eyeball - though that might exist as well.

Sounds like you are searching for intellectual/scientific "proof" when it could make more sense for you to just see how it might work for you. Then you really know that it's real, and much more so than through intellectual analysis. As long as it has worked for some others (and apparently quite a few others), it can work for you as well.

> 4. Is there any method which could scan in real time the pulling action of the extraoccular muscles and consequent change of the eyebulb shape in the process of accomodation documenting the roll of these muscles in the accomodation process through their impact on the he eyebulb shape ?

Not aware of any - but again, the proof is in your direct experience of what happens with your own vision when/if you decide to get out of your mental world and into the world of direct experience in the here and now of life.

Use your mind as a tool - rather than being its prisoner.

[ondrej]

Dear Martin ,

thank you very much for your reply
I would like to say that I am definitely on "your side " in terms of the theory that relaxation on sobconscious / conscious level= lowered tension in extraoccular muscles = lowered pressure of these muscles on eyebulb =partial or complete return of the eyebulb in its natural shape where the accomodation improves or work properly
If I understand your work and approach to vision improvement correctly, then you approach is based upon this assumption and in the section of your book dedicated to visualization you are directing people to visualize these particular steps including the visualization of the eye bulb shape change

I also absolutely agree with you that most supreme goal of each individual who decided to improve her/ his vision is the actual improvement and the theory behind it as well as evidence of symptomatic changes is secondary issue.

On the other hand one can not deny that this assumption is lacking evidence in terms of the last step , particulary the change of the eye bulb shape .Unfortunately without this evedence the theory is lacking the credit which I believe it deserves.

I am working hard trying to acquire the evidence for the eye bulb shape change in the process of vision improvement and hope to be soon in position to deliver evedence for or against it

Wish you all the best in your excellent and dedicated work on the field of vision improvement
If you come across any new evidence for the eyebulb shape change in the process ov vision improvement I would be very thankfull to hear about it.

I will be soon attending one of your vision improvement classes to become more familiar with your approach

All the best

Ondrej

[Martin Brofman]

> this assumption is lacking evidence in terms of the last step , particulary the change of the eye bulb shape .Unfortunately without this evedence the theory is lacking the credit which I believe it deserves.

The "evidence" is clear - when people have improved their vision using these techniques, and when they had been previously told that the condition of their eyesight had been related to the shape of their eyeball. You cannot argue with success.

Check out the Success Stories page on our website at www.healer.ch/success.

If you choose to come to a class, it should be with the intention of improving your eyesight, rather than "becoming familiar with my approach." Otherwise you will be wasting your time and money. The Class is for people committed to improving their eyesight. One requirement for participation in the class is that eyeglasses may not be worn in the class.

Anyway - the idea that eyesight is related to the shape of the eyeball, and that due to tensios in the extraocular muscles, is not my idea, but that of Dr. William Bates, the ophthalmologist who was the pioneer in the field of eyesight improvement. My own area of expertise is in the relationship between eyesight and consciousness, and the quantification of that process.

Dr. Bates' first book, "Better Sight Without Glasses," contains more of the references you seem to be seeking, while his later "Better Eyesight Without Glasses," is more about his methods. You can direct your "research" there to find your answers.