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Lasik
Sept 6, 2006 17:12:05 GMT 1
Post by Michael on Sept 6, 2006 17:12:05 GMT 1
Wouldn't Lasik surgery pretty much just lock the person into the mental/emotional state of unclear vision almost permanently? I use the word "permanently" loosely here, but you know what I mean. Also, since eyesight is related to the stomach chakra it's apparent that unclear vision is related to an imbalance of that chakra. Sooooo, my question is this: is it possible, WHILE WEARING contacts or glasses, to fix the imbalance of the stomach chakra? I wonder what would happen...............Namaste!
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Lasik
Sept 7, 2006 6:28:17 GMT 1
Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 7, 2006 6:28:17 GMT 1
With laser surgery, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't - and that indicates that sometimes the person releases the tensions in their consciousness and sometimes they do not - and when they do not, the symptom returns.
It might be possible to clear the solar plexus chakra while wearing glasses - but the eyesight can not return until the person takes off their glasses. If the glasses become uncomfortable, that can work, and the person will just not feel like wearing the glasses any more - but if they persist in keeping their glasses on, I would say that they would lock themselves into the impaired way of seeing.
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Lasik
Sept 11, 2006 7:00:31 GMT 1
Post by andrew on Sept 11, 2006 7:00:31 GMT 1
"The Solar Plexus Chakra is associated with the parts of our consciousness having to do with perceptions of power, control, or freedom. In its clear state, it represents ease of being, and comfort with what is real for one's self - being comfortable with who you are. "
I have been collecting life stories for people who wear glasses for a few years now.
To begin with i had the notion that vision problems were something that was applied to us by forces beyond our control
Slowly that idea has changed
I am now noticing, when looking at these life stories that another pattern seems to be there.
The person has created/lived a fantasy lifestyle. In this fantasy they have certain perceptions of personal power. Their freedom is based on peceptions of personal power that may or may not be realistic - either way they feel free. Regardless of what forces are around them these people "stand tall". When you consider that most people who are at the point of having a vision problem are children, its not then surprising that these children should have certain fantasy ideas about life.
Events then happen that in some manner introduces a certain kind of reality to these peoples lives. From that point onwards they dont feel free. They have to survive. They are confused. Things seem blurry and no longer understandable as before. As often as not they retreat inside where the fantasy can be maintained about their real power and the time when they can be free and so forth etc etc.
Routes to normal sight therefore involve either somehow recreating a fantasy lifestyle so they can once more have the perception of power and freedom while ignoring "the facts of life" or instead developing a more realistic sense of who they are and how they fit into existing power systems while feeling free to walk the path they wish to walk in life.
Soooooo, providing a person can feel they are moving in the direction of being freer and less controlled and imprisoned, so that they are more able to feel they are in contol of their own fate then it follows that glasses or not, the inner tensions will change, and the glasses will simply be too strong for that individual
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Lasik
Sept 11, 2006 7:27:31 GMT 1
Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 11, 2006 7:27:31 GMT 1
Anyway, that's the story as is appears through your lens, Andrew, because that may be the case with you.
>>>Routes to normal sight therefore involve either somehow recreating a fantasy lifestyle so they can once more have the perception of power and freedom while ignoring "the facts of life"
I personally do not feel that this will be a "route to normal eyesight." It is based on not seeing and acknowledging what is.
>>>or instead developing a more realistic sense of who they are and how they fit into existing power systems while feeling free to walk the path they wish to walk in life.
Sounds more reasonable. I would add that they can either fit into existing power systems, or else migrate to another where they are free to be themselves while not perceiving that existing power system as a threat.
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Lasik
Sept 11, 2006 10:11:54 GMT 1
Post by andrew on Sept 11, 2006 10:11:54 GMT 1
I wish i knew what it was exactly you dissagreed with Martin
Earlier today you were congratulating a contact lens wearer on their success at having a lower measured prescription
However when i say such things are possible then i am "looking thru my lens" or "chosing to have tensions in my consciousness"
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Lasik
Sept 11, 2006 16:20:30 GMT 1
Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 11, 2006 16:20:30 GMT 1
What I am saying is that everyone sees things through their own bubble - their own lens - and the story you are seeing, your perceived view of things re the "fantasy lifestyle" scenario, is as it appears to you, because that is the message it has for you, personally. Someone else may see it differently, because they have a different message to get for their own unique path.
When I say that you choose to have tensions in your consciousness, you can choose to see the way that my words make sense, instead of choosing to feel an affront. You seem particularly defensive, and that also seems to get in the way of communication that can help you. After all, you are here on this message board and asking questions in order to get feedback and to get my point of view. When I offer it, then, consider that it might be valuable for you to see how it can have value for you, rather than feeling offended by it, and thus not really hearing how the message can help you.
The contact lens wearer who had a weaker prescription noticed that their lenses were no longer comfortable, and had to change them - which is how they discovered that they needed a weaker prescription.
As I menitoned above, "If the glasses become uncomfortable, that can work, and the person will just not feel like wearing the glasses any more - but if they persist in keeping their glasses on, I would say that they would lock themselves into the impaired way of seeing. "
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Lasik
Sept 11, 2006 20:04:03 GMT 1
Post by andrew on Sept 11, 2006 20:04:03 GMT 1
I dont see myself as feeling offended by the comments. However i do think they create a separation of ideas and possibilities.
I dont think Drbill uses the word uncomfortable but rather is describing that whereas it appeared the vision with glasses had got worse (and therefore could be uncomfortable i agree) in fact the vision had got better and the lenses were too strong.
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Lasik
Sept 12, 2006 6:01:15 GMT 1
Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 12, 2006 6:01:15 GMT 1
If you were not choosing to feel offended by my comments, you would not make statements like, "However when i say such things are possible then i am "looking thru my lens" or "choosing to have tensions in my consciousness"
There is some kind of resistance on your part to the feedback you are receiving, and the "separation of ideas and possibilities" is happening in your own consciousness - so you can choose to stop creating the separation through the resistance you have been feeling that I describe as "offended."
You seem to be reacting to my words in the same way that someone else on this board reacted to your use of the word, "myope." When you see that you meant nothing demeaning by your use of the word, you might also understand that you were not being demeaned in any way by my comment that you were seeing the situation through your own lens, through your own bubble, through your own filter involving power structures and "fantasy lifestyles."
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