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Post by queen8 on Jul 21, 2007 22:41:40 GMT 1
I've heard about this woman who survived an accident, but has had very poor sight afterwards. It was a really nasty "accident", someone drove over her while she was asleep in a tent (or something like it). She doesn't want to look at what happened or find out why etc, do you think this is what she has to change to be able to see? To me, it seems that you always emphasize all the nice things to look at (to open your eyes to), so I don't quite get this: does she have to look at the awful accident to be able to see, do you think? Or is it possible to view it differently?
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Post by Martin Brofman on Jul 22, 2007 9:25:08 GMT 1
We would have to know what exactly is happening with her eyesight to give specifics - but anyway, it was a traumatic event that apparently had traumatic effects in her consciousness.
I would also look at what was happening in her life at that time, in order to see what stimulated the event of being run over while asleep in her tent.
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Post by Angeleyes on Jul 22, 2007 15:54:58 GMT 1
Queen 8 wrote
"To me, it seems that you always emphasize all the nice things to look at (to open your eyes to), so I don't quite get this"
I had just logged on to query this view that I'd seen in your book Martin, and read Queen's post first, so Queen I hope you don't mind me butting in on your post.
With every focused effort I've been making on improving my vision Martin, something comes up from my past which causes me unbearable heartache. Each time it's been a different issue and each one seems to hurt more than the one before.
Three weeks ago I began watching "the Secret" dvd daily as suggested to me by another therapist and I found myself daily while writing the list to be thankful for, adding in some vision affirmations. The more I did them, the more life became uncomfortable. I had an appointment with the same therapist who'd reccommended watching the dvd for 3 weeks and it did reinforce for me that being thankful and noticing the good things in life as well as noticing what I wanted was better to become a habit rather than a once off event.
So I confronted the uncomfortable feeling and it has brought to light something that I should have and at some level have known but didn't want to look at. But now an important part of my life I see openly (after having it spelt out for me) is not what I expect from this area. Yet again I want to withdraw and don't see any possible good way forward at the minute.
So my question is "why it seems that you always emphasize all the nice things to look at (to open your eyes to), so I don't quite get this"?
I just don't understand this or does it just not apply to me? I have done so much inner work and gone through so much pain with this and each time I tell myself that I am nearer to normal vision but in reality my eyesight hasn't changed, and since yesterday when it was all spelt out for me and I started to absorb it all, while feeling confused and shaken, I have a sore left eye which feels strained.
The way you describe in your book Martin is how I'd love to achieve normal vision and I don't know how to achieve that. You have described it beautifully and I understand and believe so much of the deeper meaning in the affirmations now that I use them so often.
I'm babbling on here and if I'm honest all I want is someone else to take the pain away.
I'm away to listen to your white light CD.
Alice
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Post by Martin Brofman on Jul 22, 2007 17:09:17 GMT 1
Hi, Alice,
It's also about seeing "what is," and apparently, that has brought up difficult emotions.
Without knowing what the "it" is, it is difficult for me to comment. If you are not comfortable to go public with this event, send me a private message.
Anyway, I would say that it is to understand that you not only reacted emotionally to a situation, but also that you have made a decision, created a belief, that you apparently are still at the effect of, perhaps about feeling safe. That's what needs to change. This, using this as an hypothesis, it would be to see that while the world may not have felt safe for you then, you can see that it is indeed safe for you now.
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Post by queen8 on Jul 22, 2007 20:01:17 GMT 1
First I'd like to say thank you, Alice, for "butting in on my post"! When I wrote about the woman who survived that accident, it was also because it reminds me of my own situation, just that I found her example more explicit in some ways. I identify with some of what you've written, too, Alice, and I'd really like to get this, that is, find out what beliefs I've made at an early age, that I still hold on to and that I have to change to live more comfortably and in a more balanced way! And that's a wish I have for you, too! To talk more specifically about my own life, there's this trauma that I had "forgotten" till three years ago. I believe the answer, then, to my question in the first post, is that yes, I have to look at "the awful accident" the way it was (see "what is"), to be able to see more clearly. That is, I have to know with my whole being that it actually happened. (I still have "comments" in my head saying "it was so awful, therefore it didn't happen") AND I have to change the beliefs connected to this, so that it's bearable to look at what happened, because I know it won't happen again. Still, I don't get this, as there are tons of "hell" in the world today. It's not comfortable to watch small children die of hunger or war or being left alone as their parents die early. How is it possible to watch this and still not be in grief? I think there may be one belief called "I don't deserve to live in harmony" that I have to change... I also have a hard time figuring out what had happened in my life at the time of the trauma, that stimulated the event. I felt I was run over while asleep (like the woman I wrote about), and I think I might have perceived my mom's "rulership" over me, as somewhat "being run over". Still, is that perception enough "to stimulate" a traumatic event? It's also something about guilt in this, for me, as both me and my mother in this case may have "created" the attraction of a heartwrenching event. Is this how you see it, Martin? And about being safe: I can't say "the world is a safe place for everyone", as I can't see that to be true. I probably need to take a step at a time, e.g. stating "I'm safe at home"/"I'm safe while asleep" or something like that. One more thing: I DO believe, though, Alice, that when we're able to see the pain, perceive more "what is", we'll also be able to see more of the joy in the world! At least that is my experience in some aspects, as when I open up to experience more of the truth, I'm also more open to let in the love that is there for me. Sometimes it is as if I'm bouncing back and forth, and the more I go in one direction, the more I'm also able to go in the other direction. If that makes sense to others. On my way to seeing clearly, I'm happy to have company....  Love, Queen8 |
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Post by Martin Brofman on Jul 23, 2007 8:57:54 GMT 1
>>I also have a hard time figuring out what had happened in my life at the time of the trauma, that stimulated the event. I felt I was run over while asleep (like the woman I wrote about), and I think I might have perceived my mom's "rulership" over me, as somewhat "being run over". Still, is that perception enough "to stimulate" a traumatic event?
Interesting that you describe your relationship with your mother as "rulership" over you. I would say you have to let in her love - and I would also say that there was apparently an event that was very difficult for you. Again, without knowing the "event," it is difficult for me to comment further on this.
>>It's also something about guilt in this, for me, as both me and my mother in this case may have "created" the attraction of a heartwrenching event. Is this how you see it, Martin?
It is always a co-creation, but still, we have no idea of what kind of "event" you are talking about.
>>And about being safe: I can't say "the world is a safe place for everyone", as I can't see that to be true. I probably need to take a step at a time, e.g. stating "I'm safe at home"/"I'm safe while asleep" or something like that.
It's about YOU being safe in the world, that the world is a safe space for YOU.
>>One more thing: I DO believe, though, Alice, that when we're able to see the pain, perceive more "what is", we'll also be able to see more of the joy in the world! At least that is my experience in some aspects, as when I open up to experience more of the truth, I'm also more open to let in the love that is there for me. Sometimes it is as if I'm bouncing back and forth, and the more I go in one direction, the more I'm also able to go in the other direction. If that makes sense to others.
You should be able to do that without going into the pain.
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Post by Angeleyes on Aug 2, 2007 10:48:07 GMT 1
Dear Martin,
Do we just focus on seeing more of the joy? Last week I felt I'd taken my power back in a situation and this week I feel my heart is not in anything again. By that I mean I'm not interested in anything: moving forward, staying the same, housework, going out and enjoying myself, doing things with my kids (this seems to be a common occurence during their school holidays and in Northern Ireland they're off for July and August). We also seem to have trouble stretching our money to cover everything at the minute and my work has dried up, and my heart isn't in it should 50 clients come looking for appointments. Even focusing on the joy doesn't feel real to me. I know that I need to change this way of being. Have you any suggestions? Alice
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Post by Angeleyes on Aug 5, 2007 22:15:49 GMT 1
Just re-reading that last post - maybe all I need to do is focus on seeing the world as safe for me now. I find that difficult. I habitually feel not safe in the world. Maybe focusing on "Everyday in everyway the world is getting safer and safer for me to live in" or " I feel safer today than I did before".
Alice
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Post by Martin Brofman on Aug 10, 2007 18:36:11 GMT 1
...or from now on, the world is safe for me... and then looking forward to seeing how that is, in facft, true now.
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Post by Angeleyes on Aug 13, 2007 16:30:42 GMT 1
Thank you Martin, that sounds exactly right!
Alice
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