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Post by Andrew99 on May 21, 2007 21:06:55 GMT 1
Martin
You once said to me that to see normally a person had to see 'what is', and you seemed to indicate that 'what is' is a single reality shared by us all?
Could you say more about this please? If you could link this to cocreation it would be helpful i think?
Thanks
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Post by Andrew99 on May 22, 2007 10:00:56 GMT 1
I suppose i have it all finally figured out. Everything that i see and imagine was created by me and is my higher self guiding me back to the way things are. I created all the difficulties I created the vision problem I created myopia, war pestulance and doom and gloom I created my fathers terrible affliction I created Martin Brofman and Roberto Kaplan and Maurizio Cagnoli as aspects of myself and what i already knew I was unconditionally loved to create whatever reality i wanted to have and yet i resisted that because it was such a silly idea and yet fundamentally i was resisting the word of god and have always resisted the word of god At this stage I seem to be aware: I think therefore I am......beyond that i have no idea And yet the world seems the same and yet it has that different dance How come this board always makes sense to me and yet on the other hand it makes no sense? How come i am in denial of spirituality all my life and then i get some kind of enlightenment and more or less everybody else is blind to what i can see? It is like a curse! Or is it a sin to search for meaning in this meaningless world? I await my answers
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Post by andrew99 on May 23, 2007 19:37:42 GMT 1
I seem to be a bit more grounded now.
Not sure what is happening but it seems ok
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Post by Andrew99L on May 24, 2007 9:11:22 GMT 1
I am beginning to believe that my experience of 'other people' reflects a reality that i cannot control without experiencing enormous tension/unpleasantness unless these 'other people' are happy for me to control them I am also aware that the experience of me as only God in the whole universe is not a good one, and that the experience of me being with other equal gods is a good one, as is the experience of me being with greater gods than me providing what they want for me is what i want for myself. Then there is authority. My experience of authority is me experiencing the collective consciousness wanting me to have what is best for myself So if i am acting as a willful god i experience the resistance of the collective. But i am free to have my own thoughts and they are shared by the collective who in turn are free to have their own thoughts.....my thoughts influence them if they want to be influenced.....just as their thoughts influence me if i want to be influenced. When i resist the collective thoughts and will not see their point of view, which i receive anyway, then i am resisting their authority to influence me via the awareness of their thoughts as if these were my own thoughts generated by me and given equal weight to the thoughts uniquely created by me only. So I=you=we So the law of this earth plane appears to be one of inviting from the collective consciousness the experiences we would like to have by seeing that "I" is no more important than "you/we" and then sitting back to see what can be provided, allowing for the collected resistance by the collective to our own thoughts. I doubt i have eyes......and yet that is the wish of the collective.....I am i believe at this stage free to think and chose what i want providing i dont will my reality upon others. So it appears i did not create myopia. The collective created that idea and then propogated it as being reality. Neither did i create Martin or Roberto or Maurizio.......and yet if i were to believe they did not exist i would then be created the thoughts in all of consciousness that they did not exist........and depending upon their own faith in the realness of themselves they might then experience some difficulty as a result of my thoughts............so I am sorry to them if my thoughts created difficulties for them...........and yet the are responsible for the reality they experience.........but it is not for me to forgive them but rather for me to ask for forgiveness and then accept what the collective judgement should be. But then i am unconditionally loved..........I can experience anything i wish...........and yet if i unconditionally experience anything i wish i risk experiencing the aloneness from the collective who want something different to what i want So where am i now in this process? What is? It appears to be whatever the collective wants it to be......and that is what i see..........or not see. At the moment i am still in the not see stage because the idea that i really absolutely definately create my reality is just too mind boggling to be really absolutely definately true and yet .........what else can there be to explain the life i have experienced? ?? I am imagining that this experience might be useful for others on this trip................and yet i wonder if I am too much talking about 'I'...............making it too much about me. The thoughts and guidance of others would be very helpful to me at the moment Thank you
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Post by Amazed on May 24, 2007 10:11:06 GMT 1
Wao You are very in your head, don't all those thoughts make you dizzy? They make me dizzy reading them. Have you ever once tried letting your thoughts go for 15 minutes and just accepting what is instead of creating complications for yourself? I've read most of the posts on this site and I can't recall you ever stopping thinking and writing and instead just feeling or allowing things to be. My life isn't always perfect but I see from my viewpoint that to go chasing stuff that I don't even need isn't going to improve my life. Other people don't have to be wrong or right for my life to work, I just need to allow them to be. They don't rule or create my world, I do. Their view is not mine, mine is. My view is not yours, your view is your view. And your view is not mine, etc. if you get my drift. I observe that you seem to spend a lot of time on this board perhaps seeking out the attention of others, maybe you could give yourself the attention you deserve and need, and a good way to start is my letting everything go and sitting still for 15 minutes. Then maybe your posts would be more focused on what it is that you really want to ask, instead of being what in my view seems dizzy. But then again, this is my viewpoint, which is neither wrong or right. Everyone else is entitled to their viewpoint. Maybe they'll post them. We're all here because we want to heal something and we value Martin's and other people's perspective and because doing it our way hasn't always worked for us. I wish you well on your trip.
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Post by Andrew99 on May 24, 2007 11:10:30 GMT 1
Amazed
You are right my thoughts are frying my brain.....dizzy is one word for that perhaps.
Then again this seems to me a transitional experience
It will pass and then maybe i wont need words
As you have suggested i have begun a listening process
I am were i now am because of that process
Thanks
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Post by Martin Brofman on May 27, 2007 7:40:04 GMT 1
"I think therefore I am"
Actually, when your thoughts go quiet, you experience true being, as compared to doing.
Just be - and from that quiet space see how things make sense in a different way.
Being all that there is can be the view from the crown chakra - seeing the co-creation is the view through the brow chakra.
Rather than seeing The Only Way That There Is, think of it as seven channels on your television set. Seven different story lines, depending on the perceptual filter. One does not negate the other - it is just another view of the same thing.
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Post by Angeleyes on May 31, 2007 13:19:23 GMT 1
Hello Martin, I have often sat and allowed myself to just be, or so I thought and yes I have been able to see many issues from a different view in this state. However yesterday I started doing your "Do Nothing" exercise, by itself after loads of prompting from my brother who is noticing great success with it. I have been uncomfortable, frustrated, sad and find it hard to allow all the thoughts to go, I keep coming up with new ones. I realised that I only thought I was quieting my mind and allowing things to be when I did it with my eyes open because I did allow thoughts to take hold and after a while let them go. This has got to be one of the best exercises of the whole Vision improvement programme and even though I did the rest of the programme for 2 months last year, I didn't do this exercise. It leaves me feeling so uncomfortable and frustrated and tearful after 15 minutes of Doing Nothing that I write out how I feel and what I see from this is how I have not been looking at the real issues in my life. This exercise shuts out the outside world and all I am left with is me. I know that soon I am able to Do Nothing for the 15 minutes as every day I get better and better at this exercise and the thoughts will go and I won't go searching for more to replace them. I am already getting better at doing the exercise. Thank you for coming up with such a simple, cost free but effective method. Alice
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Post by Martin Brofman on May 31, 2007 13:24:47 GMT 1
Super. Thanks for sharing your story.
It's interesting to see how difficult it can be to just do nothing - and then you can underrstand that when it is like that, you really need the exercise.
Until it is comfortable for you to just do nothing, you can focus on your physical sensations - for example, the sensations of your breathing, just watching yourself breathe, and continually coming back to this.
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Post by surya on Jun 18, 2007 8:25:34 GMT 1
Hi Martin, I am new to these boards. I came across your book at a time I needed it most and now, this board when I need it too. Always the right timing. Can you please tell me what the "Do nothing exercise" is?
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Post by Martin Brofman on Jun 18, 2007 9:26:55 GMT 1
It's just to sit and do nothing for fifteen minutes.
From my book about improving eyesight:
Do Nothing
When you are in charge of your own consciousness, you can decide to do something, and then choose to remain "on purpose," insisting on doing that thing, maintaining single-mindedness of purpose.
If you choose, for example, to sit still for fifteen minutes once each day, as an exercise in mental discipline and relaxation, and do nothing during that time, you should be able to do it. It may feel like wasted time, yet you may be assured it is not. Isaac Newton may have thought he was involved in non-productive time sitting under the apple tree, yet it's where he discovered the principles of gravity.
Stress affects vision adversely. When we are under stress, we do not see clearly, both literally and figuratively. Relaxation enhances vision, and is the basis for many vision improvement techniques. Doing nothing encourages relaxation.
If you feel too busy to sit and do nothing for fifteen minutes, you may need this exercise much more than you realize.
As with all exercises in this book, the eyeglasses should not be worn.
Close your eyes. Sit quietly for fifteen minutes, doing nothing. If it feels like there is something you must do, let it wait. If it feels like there is something you must think about, put it off until afterward. For fifteen minutes, there are no decisions that need to be made, nothing to think about, nothing to read, nothing to listen to, nothing to do.
If thoughts come up, ignore them. If they seem to "catch" you, recognize this, and replace those thoughts with an affirmation, like, "It's easier and easier to see clearly," until your mind quiets again, and then return to doing nothing.
Insist on doing absolutely nothing.
Relax into your sense of just Being. Let yourself just be. Your mind will relax, and the chatter will quiet, and the pushes and pulls will subside. You'll be able to be clearer in your consciousness, a bit more each time, and the cumulative effect will be noticeable in your consciousness during the exercise, and in your daily life.
You will be able to experience yourself as a point of consciousness, just Being.
After the fifteen minutes, open your eyes, and see what your state of consciousness is like. Does it feel the same as when you started, or different in some way? If it is more relaxed (and of course, it will be) take a fresh look around you through new, more relaxed, eyes.
If it feels afterward that you want to analyze your experience of this exercise, you can ask yourself the following questions:
What were the temptations to do something else? Are they the same each time you do this exercise? For what reasons were you tempted to interrupt the exercise and "come out of your space?" What were the things that seemed to stand between you and doing what you had decided was important for you? With mastery of your own consciousness, you can decide what has the highest priority.
It is recommended that the exercise be done in a seated comfortable position, without moving. With practice, the exercise becomes easier and easier, and its benefits more and more apparent. Among other things, it develops single-mindedness, builds a pattern of success in working with your mind, enhances clarity of thought, and puts you in touch with your priorities, the order of importance that things have for you. Your Do Nothing sessions will be an oasis from which you'll be able to refresh your consciousness as to what Just Being is like for you, and you'll discover the joys and benefits of living from that space - with clarity!
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Post by surya on Jun 18, 2007 10:03:25 GMT 1
Thanks, Martin. Will do nothing!
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