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Post by eromeo on Aug 25, 2006 4:24:53 GMT 1
But you can't be yourself when you're serving the ego. The ego obstructs the self; that is the reason it was made.
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Post by Jess on Aug 25, 2006 5:18:40 GMT 1
I read all of it, eromeo. You said nothing but things that were true, in my estimation.
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Post by eromeo on Aug 25, 2006 5:25:26 GMT 1
Thanks, man. I appreciate it.
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Post by andrew on Aug 25, 2006 5:49:28 GMT 1
Martin
In your vision book, you talk about how it is a good idea to make improving our vision a high priority project. You suggest some daily exercises and affirmations and encourage a focus it seems to me on making this very much part of our lives over the period that it takes to improve our vision
I was wondering if you are able to say any more about this?
For example if we are astigmatic is it a good idea to look up the personality issues associated with that so that we have some foundation for the kinds of consciousness changes that are needed? Or is this too narrowly focusing on some aspect of our health?
There seems to be some confusion here as to what kind of approach you are recommending.
Thanks
Andrew
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Post by Martin Brofman on Aug 25, 2006 6:36:53 GMT 1
If you decide that for a period of time this is the most important project in your life, everything you do will be in accord with this project - everything you eat, do, say, etc., will be seen within the context of what needs to happen in order for your vision to clear.
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Post by andrew on Aug 25, 2006 7:09:14 GMT 1
Martin, Since i am living sleeping eating the project I was wondering if you can help me make sense of what is happening in these situations for me?
I think it has something to do with events of the past
My mother had a very "controlling" personality. She was very strict on things like toilet training, the way i eat my soup, learning to read, and all manner of things. She did not apply reason but rather forced her requirements upon us.
My myopic older brother and i were kind of "broken in" by mums behaviour. But my normal sighted younger brother remained defiant and just would not be broken. This meant that he wet and soiled himself into his teens and could not read or write. I realised my mothers way was an expression of her love for me, and so when she died i had come to terms with much of this stuff and it was a difficult experience for me.
However my normal sighted brother seems to have a message for me.
I found that i seem to get provoked in certain situations where people appear to be attacking me for what i believe. If people persisted with my normal sighted brother i think he would simply smash these people into the ground and tell them if they got up again they would not ever do so again. This though does not appear to be my style.
In situations like sales people calling or the telephone marketers calling I am easily able to say i am not interested and quickly dismiss them. However when people keep coming back to me I just dont know how to deal with these situations.
I have another friend who was a ww2 combat marine. His way and my brothers way seem to be very similar. Indeed my normal sighted mothers way was equally violent.
My father though was less aggressive mostly. But he was myopic and tended to manipulate and bully and criticise but he could be persuasive and wise.
My best friend here in Wellington is very good project manager. He essentially gets people on his side so things get done his way only. You are either with him or you are part of the problem. Problem people get removed from the project.
What exactly is the message here for me??
I find it hard to delete people. I seem to prefer to delete myself!
Andrew
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Post by andrew on Aug 25, 2006 7:50:42 GMT 1
I actually really have no or little interest whatsoever in my eyesight.
What interests me is that my vision is a fundamental part of who i am. And therefore if my eyesight is not good then neither is my vision.
Rather than narrowly focusing on my "vision" or my eyesight i am in fact looking at a total transformation of my very being. That is the project upon which i am obsessive.
I am one of the healthiest people i know. I have run a 3 hour marathon and once cycled 230 miles in one day.
Therefore i think i know something about healthy living.
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Post by Martin Brofman on Aug 25, 2006 8:08:20 GMT 1
True health is a reflection of inner and outer health.
>>>my normal sighted younger brother remained defiant and just would not be broken. This meant that he wet and soiled himself into his teens and could not read or write.
So your normal sighted brother had some root chakra problems and crown chakra, as well. You do not need to use him as a model, since he was not successful with it, after all. Just because it was not his vision that was affected does not mean that what he was doing worked for him. He just developed symptoms different than your own in response to the stressful environment of your household.
Some people succeed with power trips - you can choose to do that if it works for you, or find something that works better and leaves you in balance for who you are, and for where you are in your evolution.
>>>>>>>In situations like sales people calling or the telephone marketers calling I am easily able to say i am not interested and quickly dismiss them. However when people keep coming back to me I just dont know how to deal with these situations.
Just move on, and choose to not participate in their game. It does take two to have an argument.
>>>>My best friend here in Wellington is very good project manager. He essentially gets people on his side so things get done his way only. You are either with him or you are part of the problem. Problem people get removed from the project. >>>>What exactly is the message here for me??
In a project, he is the authority, and things in the project do need to be done his way, and for him to act otherwise would mean not doing the job he is being paid for. When you are the one in charge, that is fine. Otherwise, it can easily be seen as a control trip by others, and they are free to accept or reject it.
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Post by lizzy on Aug 25, 2006 9:58:15 GMT 1
Andrew,
"When a person does not have an eyesight problem, I think it is hard to understand the difficulties a person with a vision problem encounters in understanding these issues"
I feel that would be a matter of compassion and empathy rather than having clear vision. And using imagination. I know plenty of clear sighted people who would understand the collective difficulties of those with vision problems and some who could further understand and want to understand an individual.
I also know clear visionsioned people who would not because of their evolution in their Heart mind. They may not want to try to understand or may wish to make a judgement or they may have communication difficulties rather than vision problems. Or just not be comfortable with dealing with other peoples problems.
We all have stuff as rightly said we all have an ego, and we can choose who we want to be able to understand us or we can choose not. So I think choice is important, when wanting another to understand us.
For me, I am less bothered if another understands me or not, but I do like to try and understand another in the view to them finding more freedom to be themselves and finding a workable solution to their problem, at that moment in time.
My friend, losing her glasses was an indicator that she is beginning to find more freedom to be herself, so as a person without a vision problem I can encourage her with that.
So there is an exchange, co-creation, I develop my Heart and Joy at seeing her fly, she regains her vision.
Lizzy.
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Post by eromeo on Aug 25, 2006 21:02:14 GMT 1
For the record -- For anyone reading this who is confused -- In the dialogue initiated yesterday by Andrew, regarding my statement about Martin's vision correcting itself as a side effect of his inner transformation, in which he began by asking me to define my understanding of the Body Mirror System: Andrew deleted all of his posts. I see today that he also deleted a picture of himself which he had added yesterday. That's the picture I was referring to.
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Post by eromeo on Aug 25, 2006 21:09:24 GMT 1
I just wanted to add that I feel the comments I made yesterday to Andrew about ego and attempting serving two masters is extremely valid in the context of healing. In order to heal the mind, the split that is caused by trying to serve both the (man-made) ego and our higher selves (God) must be dealt with. As long as our minds are split, we cannot function authentically in the physical world.
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Post by Martin Brofman on Aug 26, 2006 8:54:54 GMT 1
Andrew has decided to leave the membership, which is why his picture no longer shows.
I have deleted all personal references - it is one thing to talk philosophically about these things, and there is no problem with that - the trouble begins when it becomes personal, with comments like, "I recommend you take your own advice."
Now, let's move on.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 26, 2006 11:06:34 GMT 1
Since a few people were wondering what i had deleted I can add back my first message that i posted in the series i subsequently deleted. I subsequently made this into a link and offered what i thought was a more friendly response. I have no more of these messages saved Here is the message: "the key here is "he made changes in his way of being" bodymirror.proboards42.com/index.cgi?board=vision&action=display&thread=1154931179&page=1#1154954226 And that was a conscious decision by Martin to change He then reflected on what had changed and came up with the BMS that give a person a map of their consciousness so that for any symptom there are a list of changes that can be made to heal that condition. No conscious decision to change simply means no healing Martin did not consciously work on healing his vision but he did consciously decide to make changes to his very way of being. In this process Martin underwent a personal transformation and all this began because he decided to consciously change his way of being. "With determination, and a willingness to change perceptions and their accompanying realities, any Being can transform his or her view of the world, both literally and figuratively, and return to a natural state of clarity of vision. " "Approaches to vision improvement which have not considered the aspect of personality change have had only limited success. In cases where vision has been restored, the person involved has been through a transformative process and has, in fact, dropped a role, and become another Being, with another personality, more real, and with another way of seeing the world. The degree of improvement and the rapidity of improvement has been connected with the willingness on the part of the individual to accept the changes, to accept the new personality, to become the new Being, or rather, to become and live who they really are." www.healer.ch/visionarticle.html If a person resists making changes then they are resisting a core principal of the BMS Nobody can in fact consciously work on healing their vision in my view. Imagining that your vision is getting better is tantamount to a denial of reality if no changes are made in the consciousness. Imagining your vision is getter better may lead you to feel happier and more joyful, and in that case changes have already happened in your consciousness. However to improve your vision it is possible to know in advance *which* changes are needed and which are not. This is the fundamental principal of the BMS Resistance to change is a normal and healthy part of being human. Without resistance we would simply rush out and buy any product we saw advertised. In my view the BMS enables us to put a laser beam on precisely what needs to be let go of and what precisely we need to hold onto as if life itself depended upon it. Either way it is a conscious change process
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Post by eromeo on Aug 26, 2006 21:39:54 GMT 1
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Post by Martin Brofman on Aug 26, 2006 21:46:36 GMT 1
Andrew - quite accurate analysis.
Eromeo - Thanks for the references to A Course in Miracles. It's a super tool.
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