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Post by Angeleyes on Sept 7, 2007 10:05:13 GMT 1
Lovemusic, Isn't it horrific that we can create such traumatic events for ourselves through our mind and by suppressing emotion. Why do we humans misuse our power to cause ourselves such misery and pain when we could choose to see things more positively? I ask that healing be sent to the situation with your friend and his mother and their entire family. So much can still be healed even after death.
See them with compassion.
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Post by lovemusic on Sept 7, 2007 18:29:52 GMT 1
I ask that healing be sent to the situation with your friend and his mother and their entire family. So much can still be healed even after death. Thank you, Alice.
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Post by Angeleyes on Sept 8, 2007 10:54:57 GMT 1
You are very welcome, Lovemusic Maybe you would like to receive healing on this situation also, if so just accept it and if you would rather work with it in your own way that's ok too. Alice
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Post by Angeleyes on Sept 8, 2007 11:04:41 GMT 1
Martin, I see now that when I start to feel uncomfortable feelings coming up I have made myself a cup of tea to fix things, when what I really was doing was using the tea to suppress it all down again before I might actually see it or feel it. In the past I HAVE GIVEN UP TEA FOR SHORT LENGTHS OF TIME, when today I wondered if when thinking of making the tea I say to myself " I know I'm feeling uncomfortable about something here and I will allow it to come up regardless of what I eat or drink" Would that work or would I be better to avoid the tea as I've associated it with comforting myself? As I am typing this without my glasses on there are afew mistakes on this post but I wouldn't let the perfectionist in me go back and correct them. Aaah, now you all see that I can't do things perfectly.
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Post by lovemusic on Sept 8, 2007 12:45:16 GMT 1
You are very welcome, Lovemusic Maybe you would like to receive healing on this situation also, if so just accept it and if you would rather work with it in your own way that's ok too. Alice Thank you, I really appreciate that, Alice I accept.
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Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 8, 2007 16:39:20 GMT 1
Hi, Alice,
You can let yourself be comforted by the tea while you are allowing the "uncomfotable" feelings come up to be processed. Be willing to see what you have been avgoiding looking at - and the truth shall set you free.
...and it's okay if people see that you DON'T (rather than CAN'T) do things perfectly - there are few of us who have achieved perfection ourselves - so just keep on doing your own fine-tuning, as we all do. We are doing the best we can with what we've got.
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Post by andrew on Sept 9, 2007 16:34:52 GMT 1
I am wondering if this is less complicated than people are making it.
I know i might not be known for making things simple but even so! Please bare me out here.
In myopia fear/insecurity/isolation/unhappiness (that kind of insecure feeling) is in *tension* with our centre for power and control or our *ego*
The ego wants to feel good....and thinks it knows best. It is an "I" orientated way of seeing that tends to ignore feeling as being something useful and there to serve us.
In *suppression* an emotion is consciously held in - but it is seen but it is not acted upon.
In *repression* there is no conscious awareness of what is forgotten. It is held in without effort because the body/mind believes it best to forget it. For example something terrible that serve no purpose to be remembered.
In *Suppression* the body/mind is demanding some kind of *expression* so that the body can release its tension. Expression can just be a an awareness that leads in time to an action. The thought gets expressed, is seen clearly and is acted upon over time. The ego is preventing this expression.
A child can think for example "I love my parent" and feel that is true and want to express that, but the ego refuses to give in. The ego demands some kind of resolution of what it regards as an injustice for example. And yet the feeling remains of wanting to show love of the parent more deeply and more closely *but* often there is a fear attached to that too. The ego then has some sense of rightness about its actions. Overall though there is a tension that prevents things from being seen clearly. For example once seen clearly we realise life is not perfect, we are not perfect, they are not perfect. We love them anyway. And paradoxicly life becomes perfect for us.
I guess i made this complicated!
I just wonder if people are seeing this as clearly as it could be seen.
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Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 9, 2007 16:43:01 GMT 1
You have to see it in the way it makes sense to you, yourself, and others will do the same.
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Post by Angeleyes on Sept 12, 2007 13:35:34 GMT 1
I have noticed that when something is really important to me I hold it in and don't express it, In the post I made on the healing message board to do with pain in right arm and wanting something and having resistance to receiving it, I realised when working through Martins reply that the more important that something is to me the less I talk about how important it really is to me. I don't express the importance of it to those whose support I may need to get there and I think it was a kind of faulty thinking on my part. I used it as a protection because if I told them it was important and they rubbished it or withdrew their support then that would be leaving that dream open and vunerable and maybe it might never happen. Yet I was talking inwardly to myself about all the ways it couldn't possibly happen and putting up more hurdles, at the same time as I was protecting this desire from open scrutiny from others. I told myself it was the only way to make it happen was to work quietly away at it myself. But what I really was doing was sabotaging my wish myself. I needed the support of some others to look after the kids while I was away, I needed to be saving towards the cost of the goal and I wasn't actually putting any money away for it until this week because there was always something else to be done with the money. The realisation dawned this week that if I saved the money I spent on all the things I do to help me cope with not having achieved this goal then I could have afforded it by now. If I had talked about it openly I could have planned ahead with those whose support I need to help out and I may have gotten some encouragement along the way. So when something is of real importnace to me I need to learn to express it. Alice
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Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 12, 2007 14:37:43 GMT 1
You need to express it.
Don't put it as something for the future, but something that you can begin doing now.
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Post by Angeleyes on Sept 12, 2007 14:39:24 GMT 1
Thank you. I choose to express it. Alice
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Post by spiritgirl on Sept 12, 2007 18:37:48 GMT 1
I think another part of the repressing/suppressing/not expressing puzzle is that maybe we want to be perceived by others as kind, good, loveable, and we fear that if we really express ourselves and be ourselves we will be perceived as bad, greedy, selfish, unloveable etc.
This can apply to negative expressions eg if we complain then we may fear being perceived as "whiney" and someone to be avoided. If we go for our dreams we may be perceived as "aggressive" "greedy" "selfish".
The bottom line maybe is to find out find why we need to be perceived in a particular way and what will it bring us. I think most people can read us no matter how careful we are to hide our true nature or motivations.
SG
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Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 12, 2007 18:53:12 GMT 1
As a belief, rather than affirming, "When I express myself freely something bad will happen," to, "When I express myself freely, something wonderful always happens," and look forward to seeing how that is, in fact, now true.
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Post by somethingtosay on Sept 12, 2007 22:42:42 GMT 1
But this is not always true. As the person before said, sometimes when you express yourself honestly wonderful things do not happen.
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Post by Martin Brofman on Sept 13, 2007 6:12:09 GMT 1
Your beliefs create your reality. Your reality reflects your beliefs. You create your beliefs.
If you decide that this is always true, and create that belief, you can look forward to seeing how it is, in fact, true.
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